Posts by Julia Orwell

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"I'm thinking of getting reinstated just so I can get my family back."

by Julia Orwell in

this was just said to me by a friend who was disfellowshipped just over 2 years ago.

she just had a miscarriage, and her partner dumped her rather than supported her through this process.

she told her jw parents, and they refuse to even call her or offer her any emotional support.

Julia Orwell

Thanks! My friend is not fully ready for TTATT yet, but she's becoming more and more receptive to it. It won't be lost on her that the ones who rally to her side during this time of need are her disfellowshipped friends and me, the 'apostate'.

Her mother is a mega bitch though, and I reckon this is a cause of many of her neuroses and problems in life. What she really wants is her father to be there and protect her, even just have a nice meal with her but he won't even do that. Sick. She's so upset because when he went to jail recently she did everything she could to see him and support him in his hour of need, and now he shuns her in her hour of need.

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Another new member here to share her experience

by One Last Kiss in

im a long-time lurker turned member, finally felt the need to share my experience with people who know where im coming from.

will try to be as succinct as possible!.

am from the uk and was born in as 3rd generation.

Julia Orwell

Your story really resonated with me. It's amazing how slowly, but surely, the awakening process takes place, with a widening gulf between what the religion teaches and what the Bible says and reality. I to noticed how in the last few years it became all Obey Obey Obey the GB. I too noticed the renewed assaults against tertiary education, and the increase of cult-like reasoning. That and, I could no longer make excuses for the logical fallacies or perform the mental gymnastics needed to reconcile their teachings with the world as it really is. Between the constant mental battle against reality and the guilt and abuse they crush you with, it's easy to see why so many of us come out of the cult with our minds frazzled.

The healing process is a slow one, and it takes time to get your confidence back and have some pride in your accomplishments. It also takes time to renegotiate your views of things the cult supplied a canned view for. It's a long journey and we're all on the path together here.

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New Here

by Justmenthedogs in

i came across this forum and started reading it long before i decided to join.

it is amazing to read that i am not the only one feeling the way i have for many years.

i come from a family of jw's.

Julia Orwell

Welcome. There seem to be more new people joining every day. This is showing just how many people have had enough of the cult.

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"I'm thinking of getting reinstated just so I can get my family back."

by Julia Orwell in

this was just said to me by a friend who was disfellowshipped just over 2 years ago.

she just had a miscarriage, and her partner dumped her rather than supported her through this process.

she told her jw parents, and they refuse to even call her or offer her any emotional support.

Julia Orwell

This was just said to me by a friend who was disfellowshipped just over 2 years ago. She just had a miscarriage, and her partner dumped her rather than supported her through this process. She told her JW parents, and they refuse to even call her or offer her any emotional support. I mean, she just friggin' lost her baby!!!

I know she won't really go through the reinstatement process as she's like KateWild and speaks up, and the elders don't easily reinstate someone like that. Oh and she's a single mother too... It goes to show though just how badly you need your family when tragedy strikes, and how this cult rips them away from you. I mean, her baby died! That's the worst thing that can happen to most women.

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Strangest Local Needs?!?!?!?!

by thepackage in

jw
friends

what was the starngest local needs topic you ever heard???

?

Julia Orwell

" Anyway, at the next Service Meeting, a local needs talk was given discussing the situation, and the elders decreed that we should not take our children outside to discipline them anymore; instead we were to take them into the library and give them their whippings in there!!"

We had a similar talk at our hall. The neighbours must have been getting upset. Also, we had one about how we needed to be quiet in the carpark after the night meetings because the neighbours had been complaining to the council about us carrying on at 10 o clock at night. I was one of the raucous laughers!!!

At another hall we had one about how sisters shouldn't wear stuff that shows the shoulder, because the shoulders are near the breasts, and if a man sees a woman's shoulders he begins thinking about her boobs...funny thing was, his wife had huge boobs and you could often see her nipples through her shirt. Don't get excited though guys, she was fat, dumpy and gross.

Always about how we women are responsible for what men think about.

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Do poor educational areas yield more JW's??

by quellycatface in

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friends

hi guys.

hope you all had a good christmas and a peaceful time with your loved ones.. the reason i ask this question is, i have lived in many areas due to work committments.. i find in the areas which have lower standards of schools, have more congregations.

yet, in more affluent and better school areas, there are fewer kh's.. i hate to stereotype but are the borg aware of this and turn it into their advantage?.

Julia Orwell

I don't know if it's deliberately turned to their advantage, but I have noticed higher income areas yield fewer jws, even if they're more densely populated. I don't know if there's causality here as my city is a city mostly populated by people who move here as opposed to people born here. Most people who live in my city have moved from interstate or overseas, including jws. It could he that because jws are poorer they settle in poorer areas where the cost of living is cheaper.

It is easier also to find a lot of poorer people at home while witnessing, such as people in housing commission, unemployed and parents with young children. Our territory had from public housing and homeless shelters to some of the most expensive homes in the country. The ones in the high class places were almost impossible to get home, or were only there part of the year. They live in mansions with high walls and intercoms so when, on the odd rare occasion we got someone home via the intercom, they weren't interested. It was far easier to get people home and actually talk face to face in the housing and lower income areas. We used to have a saying that applied to those in waterfront mansions or massive acreage properties with rainforest gardens and sea views: " they don't need our message because they already have their paradise." Traditionally it is the poor and downtrodden who take the opiate of religion, not those who live comfortable.

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2014 YB Should Be Out Anytime....Partaker Number Predictions?

by LostGeneration in

i think this is the year they finally take that dog out back and shoot it - no partaker number.

but i've thought that for the last three years.

lol.

Julia Orwell

What? Fewer anointed this year?

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Did you ever run into brothers who didn't like "straightforward" talks?

by toto555 in

so you brother who use to give talks (especially public talks) did you ever run into those brothers that always wanted you to speak "diplomatically" and "show love" all the time even though when you gave a talk and discussed certain points in a honest and straightforward way there was nothing wrong with what you did?

some people just don't like to hear the truth and even want you to "water things down" so that you "tickle" people's ears.

did you ever run into that?.

Julia Orwell

We had a substitute CO once get up and tell our congregation it was rotten to the core and everyone was shocked. He told the absolute truth about that congregation, and half of us were glad he said it plainly and the other half...well I suppose as the bitches, gossipers, manipulators and slanderers they may have been stunned to be called on their crap. I always appreciated a jw who called a spade a spade because we were rare.

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Tween went Christmas Caroling, Knocked on JW Door

by skeeter1 in

jw
friends

my tween went christmas caroling with a small group through our neigbhorhood.

they didn't know where some jws lived in our neighborhood.

by accident, they knocked on the jw door.

Julia Orwell

Could have been any of the non Christian religions. You'd get a similar reaction if you went to the door of a Muslim.

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I find I am Shunning my family !

by Phizzy in

jw
friends

although i really hate the wt/jw shunning policy, which especially huts those who have been df'd, i find i am in a kind of way doing it to my jw family.. i do not include them in anything i do, in my own family gatherings, and i cannot be arsed to inform them of things going on in my family, or to even go and see them, unless really necessary.. this all adds up to a kind of "reverse shunning", and i do feel a twinge of guilt about it, but it is simply how things have become.. do you, fellow faders, find a similar thing happening ?.

Julia Orwell

Is it deliberate shunning or simply a growing apart of people who no longer have much in common? I no longer call old jw friends simply because I no longer have anything in common with them. And their cult speak annoys me.